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Gary Burton and Chick Corea

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Vibes and piano
keyboards: mallets and fingers
move hammers to strike.

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{"commentId":1737413,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

I've had this one for almost fifteen years and it came from a perfect moment in hot Florida just after the sun had gone down, but before it was dark. The afternoon rain had put water in the air which had pulled a lot of heat away and, for the moment, the birds and the wind were hanging around, but taking a breather. All the windows were open because the AC wasn't being utilized in order to save $. Walking from the front room, outside and onto the screen porch was the same as walking from one side of the room to another. The atmosphere, temperature, and movement of air was identical. Sitting out there on the wicker, dusty chair it was even noticeable that the while the birds and leaves were only lazily singing and rustling, the cars within earshot had also stopped moving. No jet in the air or sirens in the distance. The only unnatural sound was coming from another room in the house that had a TV tuned to PBS, which was broadcasting a live performance by Chick Corea and Gary Burton. The fact that the sound was being received via electromagnetic radiation that had been converted into mechanical vibration was not as offputting as it would seem due to the information being transmitted through those interactions. Symmetric and still soulful. Mechanical and organic. Hammers and mallets. Strings and bars. Bars and keyboards. Fingers and mallets.

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Reply#1 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
{"commentId":1747737,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}

I like the phrasing in your post. It made it interesting to read.

Nice photographs, too.

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  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
{"commentId":1747843,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

Thanks Shaun...kind of a long explanation for a haiku. :D

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  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:18 PM EDT
{"commentId":1748743,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

Its probably worth the time to take a listen to some of their stuff...can be hypnotic and soothing.

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  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:54 PM EDT
{"commentId":2369653,"authorDomain":"patriciaad"}

Wow, JCAtom! You've got writing talent!

I have been convinced to try out their music - Hypnotic & soothing is just what I like.

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#1.4 - Tue Aug 5, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
{"commentId":2370096,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

thnx :)

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  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Tue Aug 5, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2157895,"authorDomain":"bluecollarbytes"}

I frst heard Corea on a Return To Forever album, bought by "mistake" in 78 because I liked the album cover, and because I was in the habit of buying music unheard of before by me.

That started me off in my appreciation for nearly all forms of Jazz.

I was a Jean Luc Ponty "addict" for a few years there.

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Reply#2 - Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:18 AM EDT
{"commentId":2201296,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

I can get into most of it. Pharaoh Sanders was one of the ones that got me into Jazz. Thembi. Critics didn't like it, but whatever, you know. He's had a pretty cool career that hasn't really stopped. Kinda like Miles Davis did in terms of genres that he explores.

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#2.1 - Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":2338583,"authorDomain":"Greyshore"}

The symetry and syncopations are a treat for the ears.

I was a Jean Luc Ponty "addict" for a few years there

I still am. Had the privlage of seeing him twice, once with Stanley Clark and Al Demeola, the second with some smokin players.

I take a break from this genre, but was very much into jazz and fusion in the 90's. I saw Chick and his Electric Band w/ Bill Buford on the kit, Pattituci on bass. Incredible!
Still hope to see Return to Forever if the music of the spheres will magically send me a golden ticket.

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  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Fri Aug 1, 2008 12:05 AM EDT
{"commentId":3805937,"authorDomain":"terry57"}

Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer:  freeway jam may have been my start from there is just really expanded to so many others including  return to forever: Romantic Warrior, great album,,, got me into Al Di Meola,,, Stanley Clarke

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#2.3 - Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:11 PM EDT
{"commentId":3806192,"authorDomain":"terry57"}

appreciate the hell outta music,,, can't play a note or barely sing but i adore music to no end....

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#2.4 - Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2202113,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}

I think Miles's 'Round Midnight album is gorgeous in so many ways. The playing is fantastic. After bebop, jazz moved off in many directions I don't find aurally pleasing. But bebop? Mannnnn...

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Reply#3 - Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:50 PM EDT
{"commentId":2203258,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

Yeah, I wasn't into the fusion stuff too much. Kind of Blue is the one that got me.

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  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:26 AM EDT
{"commentId":2205409,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}

Yea. I hate to cop up to that, because being in love with Kind of Blue is very unhip, but the record is amazing. I especially like "Flamenco Sketches." I think that stuff was also very innovating; in fact, I think the denseness of fusion often serves to disguise the lack of ideas. With bebop, the rhythms, instruments and melodies are clear, so when a musician is lacking in inspiration, we know it. But when they do have inspiration - think the 50's records of Miles, Trane and Mingus among others, it can be amazing.

PS - if you never got to check out the Mingus Orchestra live, I highly, HIGHLY recommend it. They sometimes play outside the New York area, spreading the love :)

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#3.2 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
{"commentId":2206108,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

Thanks for the info.

So, why is Kind of Blue unhip? I thought it was considered to be one of the best examples of Jazz improv. Kind of like Funhouse would be the Stooges version of punk improv.

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  • 2 votes
#3.3 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
{"commentId":2206212,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}

I don't know, I think it's that that is the album recommended for people to get into "jazz."

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  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
{"commentId":2206435,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

Even if it is an entry point, who cares. It is still a beautiful work of art and a real accomplishment...mostly first takes from what I've read and heard. A mighty nice doorway through which to walk into the world of jazz. Some people don't make it past that doorway though, which may be where the uncool part comes in. Oh, I don't really like jazz too much, but Kind of Blue is great. That would be off-putting to hear.

The people who try to dictate what is cool really weren't there in the beginning either...they got their ideas by being ribbed by someone else that they considered to be in the know, or hip and have been trying to create their own cred ever since. I've viewed that outlook as counter to the spirit of music in general. Like the jackass record store guy who looks at you like you just stepped on a small child when you bring your unapproved of merchandise up to the counter. Luckily ITunes doesn't have that guy ;-D

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#3.5 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
{"commentId":2208842,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}

Sure. But, hip or not hip, Kind of Blue is an amazing record that offers endless pleasure. It being "obvious" does not mitigate that. Velvet Underground's third album would still be great music even if everybody heard of it.

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  • 3 votes
#3.6 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
{"commentId":2208940,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

Sounds like we're in agreement!

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  • 3 votes
#3.7 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
{"commentId":2338646,"authorDomain":"Greyshore"}

Kind of Blue was also recommended to me in high school being that I played trumpet. I didn't understand it until later. Also, was Freddie Hubbard, Dizzy, Armstrong. Each unique. Last year in a session in NYc, the guys brought up All Blues for the list. I sat and listened several times through, once by osmosis (background) and a few times intently. The magic for me is the simplicity coupled with the beautiful colors that Miles added to it. I was on bass, and for the first time didn't mind being repetitive. I just locked onto it and went for the ride.

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#3.8 - Fri Aug 1, 2008 12:17 AM EDT
{"commentId":2339906,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

Cecil McBee fan?

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#3.9 - Fri Aug 1, 2008 7:59 AM EDT
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Reply#4 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:29 AM EDT
{"commentId":2205417,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}

Kinda weird, truth be told. What's Bobby McFerrin up to these days anyway?

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#4.1 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2206344,"authorDomain":"fredegrar"}

Recordings of jazz are like pictures of sand mandalas. Don't get me wrong - I love jazz and Chick and Gary Burton definitely have my respect. It's just that there's such a difference between live performances and what comes out of the stereo/tv/radio/computer. There are some great recorded solos in the libraries of recorded jazz (and other posters have mentioned some of them), but I think it's very likely that the greatest jazz solos ever have happened in some seedy bar at 2am and go completely unrecorded, fading into vague memories with the next morning's hang-over. This is just simple math - seedy-bar gigs far outnumber the recording studio/commercially recorded concert gigs. As an art-form, I take the impermanence - the strictly in-the-now-ness - of jazz to be a critical part of it. That said, one of my favorite albums is a Chick Corea/Herbie Hancock live recording with a 22 minute version of La Fiesta that just rocks!

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Reply#5 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
{"commentId":2206455,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

There isn't anything like the live thing. That goes for most good music...at least for me.

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#5.1 - Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
{"commentId":2260774,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

Absolutely right JC. Live any music is good, exhilarating even, but live jazz, especially a quartet or quintet sits you down and not just feel, but actually think, as you follow the line of a solo (nodding along and saying to yourself, oh nice twist to that one, didn't see it coming...).

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#5.2 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:47 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2260484,"authorDomain":"take2la"}

AWESOME posting on Chick & Burton. Thanks
Dude

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Reply#6 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:16 PM EDT
{"commentId":2260669,"authorDomain":"jcatom"}

np, thank you!

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#6.1 - Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:37 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2362052,"authorDomain":"Greyshore"}

JCATOM,

Just received word from my brother that the golden ticket has arrived. Out of the Blue he called and am going to see RTF this Friday. SWEEEETT!

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Reply#7 - Mon Aug 4, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
{"commentId":4163938,"authorDomain":"lilsongbird101"}

interesting...

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Reply#8 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:02 AM EST
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