Lou Dobbs Abruptly Quits CNN

They should hire Dan Rather.

me too. i think cnn should hire a non white for the anchor. shows they are with the times

Neesy08, or just a qualified person. Why do companies need to set out to hirer a "non-white"? Wouldn't that be considered racism? If someone set out to hire just a white person, people would be screaming.

CNN was never better than when it had Bernard Shaw.

The hiring of an Hispanic would be poetic justice. That's exactly why they should do it.

They could Rick Sanchez into prime time.

LOL.

You beat me to it!

CNN actually has something that MSNBC and FOX don't bother to have....REPORTERS.

Ted Turner was making noises about wanting to have more control over CNN. I think that would be a good thing.

CNN isn't too bad, when compared to MSNBC.

Gulliver, how often do you tune in to fox, to say they don't have reporters? Amy Kellog, Greg Palkot, James Rosen, Rick Leventhal.... Ainsley Erhardt, Kimberly Guilfoyle.... need more? Perhaps you should watch more than a portion of OReilly, Beck or Hannity.

OK, FOX has people who dress up like reporters and play the part for the camera..

CNN actually has news bureaus and is a news organization.

Gulliver:

lol, if it looks like a reporter, sounds like a reporter and dresses like a reporter, it's probably a reporter.
again, try watching it more than just to get annoyed over whatever opinions beck or hannity are espousing.

CNN actually has news bureaus

fox also has news bureaus: Washington DC, Bagdad, London (via sky news)...

news organization

noun
an agency to collect news reports for newspapers and distributes it electronically

source

so, following the logic based on your argument, fox news is a news organization as much as CNN is. :)

I might add, that you don't like what is being reported or how it is being reported has no bearing on whether or not it is news, or that said organization disseminating that information is not a news organization.

..but Fox still isn't a news channel. It's a disinformation channel run by a Republican operative. It's much worse than a bias problem. The people that walk talk and look like reporters are stage props.

..but Fox still isn't a news channel. It's a disinformation channel

Is that an opinion, or fact? If it's just your opinion, then refer to post #6.5. If you consider it fact, please provide me with evidence to support such a claim. Otherwise, it's my opinion you're an ill-informed liberal ideologue. (though, that opinion could also be fact, evidenced by your posts here) :)

it's my opinion you're an ill-informed liberal ideologue.

It's my opinion that your opinion is.....

oh gulliver, you needn't be so polite! I'll take your quick retort to mean your assertion that fox news isn't a real news channel is merely opinion. :) good day, sir. or madam. though you strike me as a sir, in the most liberal of meanings ;)

Clearly you are young and naive enough to believe that someone with Roger Ailes background could actually be running a "fair and balanced news" organization and not a propaganda outlet for the GOP.

At least on MSNBC, they do not pretend to be without left leaning sympathies. The main difference between the two cable news channels is that FOX News is constantly making stuff up.

About as clearly as you can provide me evidence that fox is not a news organization, but rather, a disinformation organization, as you put it. Other than, of course, citing Mr. Ailes. Yet, could the same not be said of CNN and Mr. Turner? Again, your logic has been found wanting.

Also, please note I never said 'fair and balanced'. I have been arguing your assertion that it was not a real news organization, not the merits of it being fair or not.

Again, your logic has been found wanting.

No it hasn't.

You have obviously not studied the discipline of Logic. but I'll leave you to your beliefs.

Writing a lengthy dissertation on what is wrong with FOX News is not something I am going to waste my time doing. I'm also not going to set up a Web Cam to prove that my refrigerator light goes out when I close the door.

Believe what you want.

Yesterday's Jon Stewart show summarized what Fox News does pretty well with the description "They subtly alter reality to fit a preconceived narrative." He used the recent doctoring of photographic images of the "crowds" at Michelle Bachman's rally to illustrate the point.

A sweet gal like you is far too young to be watching FOX News. It will screw you up for life.

Hey Tappy! Maybe Carrie Prejean can be his running mate! Do you know where I can contact the RNC to suggest it?t?

I think Carrie Prejean is going to be John McCain's running mate. She has a nicer rack and is dumber than Sarah Palin which makes her a better running mate.

Unlike Sarah Palin, Carrie Prejean will just leave when someone asks her a question she can't answer.

and his Mexican in-laws that live with him.

JB....do you see anything wrong or problematic with the invasion of illegals? Does the rule of law have any significance to you?

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JB....do you see anything wrong or problematic with the invasion of illegals? Does the rule of law have any significance to you?

I would like to go back in time and ask the American Indians the same question. Talk about invasion of illegals.

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Do you see anything wrong or problematic with people/companies hiring illegals and taking advantage of them?

Do you see anything wrong or problematic with American companies outsourcing jobs to sweat shops in China, Vietnam, etc.?

just to nitpick:

the native americans did not consider the land to be "owned" by them. the concept of land ownership was foreign to them, as they lived in communion with the earth. had the settlers been of a similar mindset, things might have turned out differently. while they had territories, or boundaries, your comparison lacks the common foundation needed to compare apples to apples.

CNN is a mouth piece for the Liberal Agenda thugs

Hardly.

it caters to the minorities in the form of special programing such as "Black in America" and "Hispanic in America"

I must remember to TIVO Riverdance this St. Patrick's Day.

Lou Dobbs was the only one that did not fit that mold on CNN.

Lou Dobbs was killing CNN and probably inspired more than one hate crime. Good riddance!

I'll do my own thinking, thank you very much.

I try to figure out when I listen to or read opinions what the guy/gal knows or has figured out that I haven't been able to yet. There's an awful lot of smart people out there and it's foolish to think you can figure out everything for yourself.

But it sure doesn't hurt to keep an eye out for BS.

it's foolish to think you can figure out everything for yourself.

Point well made. I was merely trying to a) point out that opinion, a.k.a. talking points etc., can be deliberately limited in scope. b) I'll do my thinin' Baba Looey. It may be wrong or short sighted, but it's mine to do.

BTW-I think I have trust issues. I read to much Jefferson.

Well you do make a good point that if you get swallowed up by the talking points you will be lost in a world of orchestrated political theater.

I think the administration and the Democrats are making some bad choices. But the populist opposition to the administration is a bit looney and incoherent. It makes it hard to get traction making legitimate criticisms of the administration.

What is usually missing on MSNBC, FOX , or CNN is breaking outside of the two party duopoly on talking points to get some people who don't have an interest in either party to offer up some crtiques. At least PBS has some academics on as guests.

The only real chance we had of your vision, was if the dems swung things so far to the left, as to isolate the middle and the right. With the advent of center left/right thinking in each of the two parties. The center gets split in two, on most issues. Most people don't see the center as a political force anymore. They see it as center left or center right. Mostly because they can be swayed to one party or the other. Instead of holding to a "Common Good" mindset.

I get what you are saying, but I don't see it quite as you do.

I see the system broken more along the lines that Ralph Nader describes. Both parties are chasing after corporate mega-dollars and it makes both parties a pack of liars.

Politicians run two campaigns. They run one campaign in public for the votes of the people and another stealth campaign in backrooms for the support of corporations and the "establishments." Obama got caught red handed during the campaign when he was bad mouthing NAFTA to labor unions. A few days later it was leaked that his adviser Austan Goolsbee was reassuring the Canadians that Obama had no intention of upsetting the apple cart with regard to NAFTA. After the elections are over, both parties set about doing the bidding of their "coropate pay masters."

This health care reform "debate" fits this description to a "T." It's going to be an expensive boondoggle that insures just a few more people, mainly through personal responsibility, while allowing costs to soar and cutting funding for Medicare. It's a health care insurance company's wet dream and they are going through the motions of opposing it anyway.

The parties create a false political center between them so they can split a difference that winds up being what the corporations and war profiteers want rather than what a majority of the people want.. It's why Obama coddles Blue Dogs and Arlen Specter and Olympia Snowe. It's so Obama can keep the promises to the corporations while telling the people he did the "best he could."

It's disgusting.

The parties create a false political center between them so they can split a difference that winds up being what the corporations and war profiteers want rather than what a majority of the people want..

Reminds me of the old saying, "The ends justify means." Eh comrade? A different path to the same place, philosophically. And yes, it is disgusting and ripe with disillusion.