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National Children's Study Needs Pregnant Women for 21-Year Study

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Authorized by Congress in 2000, the National Children's Study began last January, its projected cost swelling to about $6.7 billion. With several hundred participants so far, it aims to enroll 100,000 pregnant women in 105 counties, then monitor their babies until they turn 21.

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JCAtom

“This study is of the magnitude of the accelerator in CERN, or a trip to the moon — a really big science issue,” said Milton Kotelchuck, a professor at the Boston University School of Public Health and a member of the independent panel. “But if you have a flawed beginning, then you’ve got 20 years of working on a flawed study.”

“Nowadays there are so many scams,” Alejandra said in Spanish, and her husband, José, “initially didn’t want me to do the study.” (Scientists said research confidentiality rules required that her last name be withheld.) But she ultimately decided that participating would “help the next generation.”

Chalk one up for the scientists, who for months have been dispatching door-to-door emissaries across the country to recruit women like Alejandra for an unprecedented undertaking: the largest, most comprehensive long-term study of the health of children, beginning even before they are born.

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Reply#1 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:18 AM EST
Lkessler

JC: Don't get me wrong. I think as much study as people want to allow themselves to be a part of is great. This is the part that disturbs me:

Authorized by Congress in 2000, the National Children’s Study began last January, its projected cost swelling to about $6.7 billion. With several hundred participants so far, it aims to enroll 100,000 pregnant women in 105 counties, then monitor their babies until they turn 21.

At those costs, let me tell you--women have been giving birth for eons and eons, and children do grow up, move on, have their own families. Why analyze every little bit, when it's costing taxpayers 6.7 billion dollars?

This is what I call waste. If private enterprise were funding it, that'd be one thing. Congress? To what ends, exactly? At this point, no one can say for certain what the goals are.

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Reply#2 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:49 AM EST
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JCAtom

That's why I seeded it...to see what people here think.

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#2.2 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:20 PM EST
Lkessler

Oy, yikes!! Double post JC... feel free to delete one... *I hate it when NV does that!*

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#2.3 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:55 PM EST
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took43583

Impressive target for "n" here (100K.) Much bigger than Framingham , but not quite as big as Nurses' Health.

This will be a fantastic source for data if they can enroll enough people.

I don't think 6.7 billion over 21 years sounds excessive. Think of how much we've spent so far in Iraq....

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Reply#3 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:13 PM EST
Lkessler

Took: it just doesn't seem like a reasonable amount to spend right now, when we have far bigger priorities... Just saying.

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#3.1 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:19 PM EST
took43583

To me, the things we may learn to help future generations live healthier and more productive lives are worth even more than this amount.

"...a prospective cohort study, from birth to adulthood, to… incorporate behavioral, emotional, educational, and contextual consequences to enable a complete assessment of the physical, chemical, biological and psychosocial environmental influences on children’s well-being…”

There will never be a time when we do not have many other expensive priorities. Waiting to do this sort of study until we have lots of cash on hand means we would never get around to doing it in the first place.

6.7 trillion over 21 years is about 47.6 billion per year--far less than we pay each year for health, education, housing, and other things that directly impact children--not to mention what we pay just to cover interest on the national debt.

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#3.2 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:11 PM EST
JCAtom

I'm sure that the happy-accident kind of discovery will be significant with a study as large as this also.

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#3.3 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:25 PM EST
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TNTalk

the ultimate need for "significance", become part of a study under the guise of living more productive and meaningful lives.

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Reply#4 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:47 PM EST
weRdoomed

Excellent research - trivial amount of money when you consider what we spend blowing sh*t up that never amounts to anything except heartache, hardship, and pain.

This is the kind of thing I want my tax dollars spent on.

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Reply#5 - Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:49 PM EST
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